安装无下垂的轩尼诗吊床防水布

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安装无下垂的轩尼诗吊床防水布

我的第一个野营吊床是Hennessy Expedition Asym. 当我去野营的时候,正是吊床使我改变了远离地面的习惯。然而,我经常感到沮丧,因为我不能保持库存防水布绷紧,特别是当我进入吊床。我可以把外面的一切都弄得既漂亮又漂亮,但我一进去,吊床就停了下来,防水布也松了。跛行。老土。

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My solution at the time was to remove the tarp from the hammock and pitch itseparatefrom the hammock, but there are still a few advantage to having the tarp connected to the hammock suspension:

  • Easier set up and take-down (especially when using a sleeve or SnakeSkin style stuff sack)
  • 没有吊床和tarp悬架之间的冲突
  • The tarp is always centered over the hammock
  • No abrasion with tarp line on the tree bark
  • 打火机(盎司到克)

Connecting a tarp to the hammock suspension isn’t restricted to the Hennessy Hammock models. You can tack on a tarp to任何吊床只要悬架长到足够长的时间来提供连接点。例如,您可以使用可调循环的非移动侧上的PRUSIK结来将篷布连接到WHOOPIE吊索。

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“窍门”索具一个无下垂轩尼诗吊床防水布,以保持防水布绷紧,即使吊床是装载的,是你如何挂吊床。传统上,轩尼诗是显示了非常紧密的跨锚点。然而,你把吊床摆得越紧,水平“拉力”就越高,而这反过来又会使悬挂部件拉伸得更多。这种伸展会延长悬挂物的长度(大或小),从而改变斜边和防水布的位置用过的成为,从而使其松弛。

Also, if the trees on which you are hanging are small, those tighter pitches can also pull the trees in slightly, further adding slack to the tarp.

Instead of pulling the suspension tight and “as level as possible”, hang the suspension at a 30° angle. This minimizes the horizontal pulling forces and minimizes the change between the original hang angle and the final angle once loaded.

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防水布连接点也可以放在吊床悬挂装置的上方,当吊床被装载时,防水布会保持绷紧。

I often add elastic shock cord to tension the side tie-outs of my tarp. This can help take additional slack out of a tarp (especially if it has been raining, which can stretch nylon material). This is an optional step, but it can help in some cases.

但是,不要把我的话语带来它 - 试一试,告诉我你的想法。

完美的球场 - 轩尼诗 - 吊床 - 篷布

68个答复

  1. Colton Campbell 说:

    是!!!谢谢。

  2. Coy Starnes 说:

    谢谢德里克,我一直挂着我的轩妮尼宽松,但你提到的那样松动。主要是因为它对悬浮液的压力较低。我将在下一个挂起上使用此方法。现在我唯一的问题正在寻找一些轻量级的油漆罐,我将被设置... .jk

    • Derek. 说:

      My garage hammock laboratory has all the latest in stake alternatives.

      • Bayly Taff 说:

        将角度增加到30度如何影响对角线方向。它看起来更像香蕉,而不是平坦。

        • Derek.Hansen 说:

          你需要一个美好的一天,所以你可以铺设对角线。当你对角地穿过织物的偏见时,你遵守符合人体工程学的。当你尝试挂吊篮时,你就陷入了茧和过度伸展的膝盖和脚踝的茧中。

  3. Rich 说:

    If I was using a daisy chain tree strap (I have the python straps), wouldn’t I just be able to clip in the hammock on a rung above the one I have hammock clipped into?

    • Derek. 说:

      你想要实现的是让你的暂停在30度角度。换句话说,从附上织带带的位置,悬架应该向下向下向下倾斜。

      You can estimate this angle by using your hand–extend your thumb upwards to the sky and point your index finger toward your hammock. With a little weight in the hammock you can measure more accurately, but you are trying to line up the suspension by touching the tip of your thumb and the tip of your index finger to the suspension while keeping your index finger horizontal and pointing to the hammock.

      Boy, that was easier to draw or demonstrate than to type

      You can use my hammock hang calculator to estimate the anchor point but for an average distance of 15 feet, you’ll need to attach your webbing about 6 feet high.

      如果你挂得低于那个,只是尝试剪辑靠近树的循环,而是进一步延长菊花链,你只会收紧悬架。如果说话,你实际上想要以一种方式松开它。

      如果这有意义,请告诉我。

  4. Skeeter 说:

    我只是旧的eno和kelty noah`s tarp。但我今天下午试过这一点。它效果很棒!谢谢你最好的想法!

    • Derek. 说:

      欢迎你,谢谢!是的,如果您有应用暂停系统,这种技术将与其他吊床/篷布组合一起使用。

  5. Tim 说:

    Great video, I’ve tried this method after using the hang calculator but find that the ridge line for the bug screen now sags causing the screen to be loose.

    • Derek. 说:

      蒂姆,它应该工作,但我们可能会遗漏细节。给我你的规格,我会尝试和你一起工作。你的锚点分开多远?你在使用轩尼诗吗?吊床有多大,吊床脊线有多长?

    • Derek. 说:

      好吧,我在做一个小测试。

    • 约翰逊 说:

      我对我的深丛白的zip有同样的问题:当吊床以30英寸的角度挂起时(用分度器测量),脊线滴入我的脸部,臭虫网是无用的。

      My solution was to bend about a foot of shock cord to the ridgeline near one end and tie the other end of the shock cord to the bowline with which the ridge line is anchored. It is taut enough to hold the ridge line up when the hammock is pitched with a 30⁰ angle on the suspension, yet loose enough to stretch all the way out if it is pitched with a sufficiently flat angle to pull the whole ridge line taut.

      我确实有一个对角线折叠的Bug净折叠几英寸,挂在30°,但现在它可以接受它让虫子净出我的脸。

  6. Coy Starnes 说:

    Ok, tried it last night, it worked great for awhile but the winds picked up around 3 AM and it ended up looking real bad this morning. I’m talking wind that makes the tarp go crazy floppy. It looked good shortly after I set up and tried it and was still looking ok when I woke up at midnight. I think I need to attach with something stronger then the factory prusik.

    • Derek. 说:

      是的,检查他们幻灯片的容易程度。我切换到klemheist结,他们工作得很好。另一件可能有助于一件事就是将半英寸脚踏板上的拖网进一步到达线路,远离吊床,所以当从Prusik / klemheist卸下线路到吊床时更加松弛,如果这是有意义的。

      I’m curious to hear if the winds pulled the prusik loose.

      • Coy Starnes 说:

        因为它最初熬夜,我很确定这是风。随着凌晨3点左右,风得很厉害,足以唤醒我,然后在我在5:30起床之前醒来并开始返回,我想我可能会添加klemheist结,然后留下prusik。这样,我将有两个结持每一端,几英尺的小绳子不会增加重量。

  7. 约瑟夫·柯文 说:

    怎么样使用一些冲击绳或耳机之间的乳胶管和悬浮液?

    • Derek. 说:

      That could work, although I haven’t tried it. You would have to pull those cords pretty tight so when the hammock was loaded it relaxes but remains taut. I’d prefer not to keep the tarp under such high tension.

  8. 迈克戴维斯 说:

    Nice explanation Derek. A few years ago I did a stupid thing (don’t ask) and broke my Hennessey ridge line. My dilemma, how long should the repaired line be? I called Hennessey and they gave me a ball park dimension. I used the broken line ends and spliced into them with new cord from Hennessey. Also using Whoopies. I have the Asym ? Model that I had converted to full zipper from bottom entry (kept the bottom entry feature, just in case) so, here’s the question. How would you set up your Hennessey, and then adjust the length of your ridge cord for a perfect fit? I too have the bug netting wrinkle like some others have mentioned. Are you glad you started this thread???? Lol

    • Derek. 说:

      我很惊讶轩尼诗没有给你确切的长度。防虫网是裁剪适合,所以你不希望脊线太长,否则你有撕破网的风险。

      The standard length is around 83% of the length of the hammock. For a 10 ft hammock that provides a ridge line of about 100 inches. This is a good average for Hennessy hammocks.

  9. 汤姆 说:

    做得好 - 非常教育。我会用我的HH和DIY吊床尝试这个。谢谢。

  10. 大卫B。 说:

    德里克,我刚开始HH远征,刚买了一个更大的六角形苍蝇来代替小的。如果你有你的鼓手,你会像你在这里展示你的防水布或时尚一个独立的脊线,就像你在你的帖子中所展示的那样使用连续的脊线?你喜欢哪种方法?谢谢!

    • Derek. 说:

      大卫,伟大的问题。有些变体有案例,您可能会发现一种方法比其他方式更好地工作。如果速度,效率和重量是最佳的,您可能希望将篷布连接到吊床悬架的“连接”版本。随着蛇皮样式的东西麻袋,整个系统都在一起工作得很好。

      Pitching the tarp separate is particularly nice if you have a variety of tarps or hammocks that you switch between for different types of trips. For example, if you have a nice tarp but you have a “basic” hammock for winter use and a mosquito hammock for the summer. Pitching separate also gives you a few more pitching options.

      The best reason is whatyou决定 - 什么适合您。我目前真的很喜欢一体化的系统,因为我倾向于简单,高效的系统。当我第一次使用轩尼诗时,我的大挂起是篷布并不总是合作。现在我有一个解决篷布绷紧的解决方案,我发现它是一个非常可行的选择。我喜欢篷布总是以吊床为中心,无论我如何挂吊床。

      • 大卫B。 说:

        Derek-

        感谢您的回复。我同意我必须测试这两种方法,并查看哪些对我最适合的。你的视频也让我说服了我的车库,以某种方式让我的车库更容易在一个漂亮,受控的环境中更容易地测试设置。我很欣赏你的洞察力帖子和非常详细的说明书。

  11. 说:

    我是一个狂热的背包客,只是进入吊床露营。我一直在考虑Hennesy Expedition作为我的起动吊床。谢谢你的视频,这是很棒的东西!

    Just a quick comment on the anchor point load (see comment at 5:35 in the video) that may not mean anything to anyone but me. For a 40 lb weight centered in between the two anchor points, an 8˚ hang angle should create about 140 lbs of tension in the cable. The 90 lbs mentioned here correlates more to a hang angle between 12 and 13˚.

    书呆子解释。也许这对携带木门中的计算器并想知道在他们设置时,他们的吊床上的人是有用的。每个锚点共享40磅的一半(每磅)。您可以使用几何形状计算电缆中的张力并使从锚杆和吊床向下的向上力的向上力。张力* sin(悬挂角)= 20磅。重新排列等式以获得:张力= 20 / SIN(悬挂角)。

    Basically, all this means is the smaller your hang angle, the more tension will be in the cables. Just to illustrate, a 180 lb person in the hammock with 8˚ hang angles would create more than 1200 lbs of tension in each cable, but at the recommended 30˚ the tension is only 360 lbs.

    Thanks again for the explanation!

  12. 吉米 说:

    Excellent post. Thanks for the walkthrough. Of course Hennessy hammock makes good gear but all the better when it’s done right.

  13. 贾斯汀 说:

    Ok this seems like a silly thing to have to point out, but doesn’t adding that much sag cause the tarp to be useless against anything but straight down rain? When I go camping it seems the rain comes horizontal. Doesn’t all the green you can see at 11:23 get wet?

    • Derek. 说:

      不,不是愚蠢的。首先,我需要指出这种技术不限于Asym Tarps。将篷布附加到吊床悬架的概念是这里真的很有趣。许多人对Asym Tarp上的最小覆盖率持怀疑态度,并且在某些情况下是正确的。我一直在使用Asym Tarps,多年来不利的天气,并且可以证明他们可以很好地工作,即使在理想,雨水即将到来的条件下。视频没有说明乘员如何将吊床从低覆盖区域移动。That said, I’m not trying to convert anyone to minimal tarps, but rather show how to attach a tarp so it won’t sag once you get in. A hex, diamond, winter, or rectangle tarp will provide more coverage an can all be attached his way. I also used the Hennessy monsoon tarp connected directly to the suspension and it worked famously.

      正如我所指出的那样,角度不需要正常为30度,所以如果需要,你可以将篷布更接近吊床,但没有像人们一起尝试近卧式吊床挂起。

      I hope this helps.

  14. Hammock Experiencer 说:

    这是如何改变吊床的舒适性?我喜欢HH优惠的平面位置,这个预钓鱼会改变最终的睡眠位置吗?

  15. Coy Boy 说:

    I have now got at least 4 nights since my first attempt at lowering the angle of the ridgeline in which I was not quite satisfies. The good news is, I have had much better results. I was worried on my last outing when it was windy and raining but I stayed dry. I could see getting wet if I were out in the open more but the trees seemed to block the wind enough and I guess slow the rain down and redirect it so that even though windy, the rain was not getting blown in on me. I also noticed I was able to see out much better and stay cooler on some pretty hot nights.

  16. Trekker44. 说:

    好的,我用我的A-sym UltraLite尝试了这个。这对我来说并不理想。它确实稍微加剧了一定的速度,但它在臭虫网上引起了大量的凹陷。它还使睡眠位置更像是后院吊床 - 在中间非常悲惨。我必须在半夜重新装修。我喜欢这个吊床的舒适性,但它比我即将放弃的帐篷更难以置上。谢谢你的想法。我同意完全扁平的线路对装载力不好。

    • Coy Starnes 说:

      Is this a Hennessy hammock? If so then I would have thought the actual hammock body would still be about the same lay due to the set distance between the ends of the hammock. Yes, putting in more sag will shorten that distance a little but not much. Anyways, before you give up on hammocks you might try one more time with a little less angle. Even a 20 degree sag will help keep the fly tighter than the way I used to pull mine almost banjo string tight.

      • Trekker44. 说:

        Yes, it is a Hennessy. Doesn’t shortening that distance even a little cause the bug fly to sag? That was my main problem. I prefer a tighter bug fly so it does not touch me from above.

        I finally have resorted to a separate line for the fly. It takes the hammock out of the realm of lightweight backpacking but it really seems to be required to me.

        • Derek. 说:

          No, you aren’t shortening the ridgeline on the hammock. It remains taut and operates as normal. The only change is the angle of the suspension.

    • 我上面说的关于我的弯曲abo血型的解决方案ut a foot of shock cord to the ridge line to take up the slack when hanging at a 30⁰ angle, but not overstrain the ridge line if I hang the hammock at a tighter angle (as Hennessy seems to recommend). It does leave a diagonal fold in the bug net but keeps it out of my face.

      The suspension cord is strong enough for a flat hang angle, and there’s nothing magically right about 30⁰ beyond that being the angle at which the tension on each suspension line is equal to the total load—pick an angle that is steeper than the very flat angle Hennessy’s videos show but shallow enough for a comfortable sleeping position and you might be happy.

  17. jimbob010 说:

    omg,我以为我独自一人在我的吊床上挂起。直到找到网站,从来没有能够对此问题进行排序。做得好你!

  18. Alain 说:

    Thanks for your analysis and solution of the sagging-fly phenomenon ! Better self-flattering than fly-fluttering…
    I used to hang my first generation non-asym Hennessy (with a bigger fly) and very straight by passing an extension of the prusiknot through the anchorpoint and back to the fly. This made for a a selftightening fly suspension system when the hammock was loaded.

  19. C neill. 说:

    德里克:

    你摇滚!!!一天我发现了你的你的管视频,在她的第一个篝火旁。

    我使用您所显示的30度角法在侦察吊床旁边的露营地面设置了我的Hennessey Hammock。

    无论如何,那天晚上,我的女儿听不到我对她留下来留在吊床上的情况下下雨了。但她和我们俩都呆了干了。

    Your hanging method saved us and I am not kidding. I have used my Hennessey probably 50 times plus and have had leaked problems because I didn’t understand the reasons why.

    你的视频有区别,我不能谢谢你。

    • Derek. 说:

      Thank you! This was reassuring. I’ve been reading comments of people who I don’t think watched the video and I’ve been considering making a follow-up (I still might). I’m glad it worked for you!

  20. 鲍威尔 说:

    Hi Derek, Just stumbled across you site and really like the info. I have the XL deep Jungle but I do not sleep well on my back like a banana and get back pain. Decided to do this next Rubicon run using the hammock as a tent with a 4×6 air mattress under it, and it may rain on us in 2 weeks. Also thinking to set the tarp high sit under with out it touching my head. any suggestions? Thank you in advance, excellent write up., Powell

    • Derek. 说:

      Did you see my post on how to stay comfortable in a hammock? If you sleep diagonally you will flatten out. Much more cozy. I’ve got other tips in that post.

    • Derek. 说:

      Using the hammock as a bivy is certainly possible. I’d rather hang it up but go for it! Use trekking poles or sticks to hold up the tarp.

  21. Johnny 说:

    How is the lay on the HH? Any flatter than others? I’ve been using a Treklight double hammock for a couple years but I’m considering going back to the ground unless I can find something that lays flatter. Not a fan of the kyphotic alignment, hyper extended knees, head pushed forward positioning that I get with the Treklight. I’m wondering if the asymetrical cut might make a difference? Thanks!

    • Derek. 说:

      卫生部不会帮助这些担忧。里面有点小。一个更平坦的吊床将是沃博内特黑鸟或英国吊床xpedition。脚盒和更大的尺寸帮助很大。为了完全平躺,我会和沃博内特山脊跑者一起去。

      • Johnny 说:

        Thanks Derek. I’ll definitely give those some thought. The ridgerunner is an interesting idea…I’ll have to compare the weight with my current setup.

  22. Coy Starnes 说:

    Johnny, to add to Dereks comments, I find that the bigger hammocks definitely lay flatter than the smaller ones. And by bigger, I mean longer, although wider helps too. I’ve tried several sizes of Hennessy Hammocks and a couple of other brands like Speer and Crazy Creek and the bigger ones always felt the most comfortable. Same for my homemade ones. I have not had the opportunity to try a Warbonnet but Derek has so I would trust his input.

  23. Vernon 说:

    德里克,你知道HH是左右y hammock, or does it matter, I’ve heard that the asym design dictates this to a degree (I am a right side sleeper due to sinus issues).

    • Derek. 说:

      HH吊床有头左,脚右的设计。我得检查一下他们是否提供翻转设计,但我不这么认为。

  24. Greensleeve. 说:

    Would an HH benefit from the addition of a structural ridge line?

  25. Greensleeve. 说:

    谢谢,德里克。我不清楚那一点。

    任何计划在格鲁吉亚举办任何吊床研讨会?

    • Derek. 说:

      I’d love to. Want to sponsor me?

      • Greensleeve. 说:

        Hammocking is starting to catch on with my sons’ Scout troop here in Marietta. Two weekends ago my First Class and I pitched Hennessy Expeds (Classic and Zip) and my Webelos II pitched a Byer, covered by a makeshift tarp. (He’s a natural at improvising.) They’d never hammocked before but loved it.

        让我知道你需要什么,我会通过部队的领导力来办理登机手续。我的电子邮件地址是box5368@gmail.com..

        Meanwhile, do you think the Expeds will do just fine for our upcoming mission trip to Haiti? Or should we spring for hammocks, Hennessy or otherwise, with “jungle” in their branding?

        • Derek. 说:

          如果我要去海地,我肯定会带吊床!没有问题。更好的空气流通,更好的舒适,更好的压力。

          如果您想赞助吊床诊所,可能最好与区或理事会合作,以获得更广泛的支持和出勤。我只要求旅行费用,如有可能,涵盖燃料,膳食等。

  26. Greensleeve. 说:

    伟大,有意义。我会询问一些询问。

  27. 马rc 说:

    你知道这是否会与Warbonnet XLC和Superfly篷布合作?

    • Derek. 说:

      如果篷布连接到吊床悬架,并且悬浮液不会过度膨胀,则可以在任何吊床和篷布上使用此Tarp悬挂技术。

  28. 马tt G 说:

    我想我看到了另一个好处,使用普鲁斯克(或克莱姆海斯特)的非移动侧的whoopie吊索的可调环:不再拉通过whoopie吊索!几年前,我做了四个呼啸弹弓,仅仅用了2微秒的愚蠢和粗心就把这个数字降到了2个。如果将prusik/klemheist线缆留在原位,可调回路就无法通过。我有什么遗漏吗?

  29. Expat在日本 说:

    感谢你提供了一个信息丰富的网站,以及这篇文章。我认为这是解决我一直在努力解决的问题。

    为了悬挂在树木相距很远的开阔空间(微风、阳光、景色等等),我使用了一种稍微不寻常的悬挂方式:在我的树带的每一端绑上一根长长的静电绳。我把一头扔到一根高高的树枝上,把树带拉起来,让它包在树干上。然后我把两条线都接到吊床的一端。第二根绳索增加了重量,但在取下时更容易拿回。
    无论如何,问题是如何挂破一个篷布,但感谢你的文章,我只是要把klemheist扔到我的暂停。

    再次欢呼!

  30. 马tt G 说:

    当我今早躺在吊床上,感觉到被子里的湿点,为自己感到难过的时候,我感叹在吊床上我无法调节防水布的张力。但后来我想,为什么不呢?如果我:(1)在一条防水布绳的末端绑一条小圆滚绳,然后把它放在我的吊索具悬挂装置上的普鲁士克环上,然后回到飞线的中心;和(2)把另一条防水布绳从另一条防水布上的普鲁斯克环上拿出来,然后回到防水布下面,与中间的保龄球线会合。现在我坐在吊床上,从那里拉紧防水布(第二条线穿过保龄球线,回到蝴蝶结,以获得一点额外的机械优势)。这些线也将作为山脊线。今天晚些时候雨停了我再试试。有人看到这个计划有什么缺陷吗?

    • Derek. 说:

      听起来像一个有趣的想法!让我知道它是如何工作的,我们可以说明它。

      • 马tt G 说:

        Thanks for the encouragement, Derek. So far I have discovered a gripping knot which works better for me than either the Prusik or the Klemheist. It’s the Distel knot, and I found some people on Hammock Forums talking about it. The other two knots work well on the bury part of my whoopie slings, but not a single thickness, and not two single parts side by side. I am using 3/32″ paracord on 7/64″ Amsteel with no slippage so far.
        I am trying to find an easy, one-handed way to tighten the tarp lines while sitting in the hammock. One idea I had was to connect the two lines together in the center using the long axis of a D carabiner. By rotating the carabiner to the short axis, the whole loop gets 2 inches shorter. The carabiner will stay in this position (I hope) because the rain fly itself will hold it in place. Will try it tonight when I camp on the local disc golf course!

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